Curse

Zaiden · Jun 01, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

I think that it is not fair that only the top 100 guilds gets to be on TV. I mean, there are many well known HA guilds that deserves to be shown (that arent already in the top 100), people can actually learn many things by watching the pros play

. So I was wondering if aNet could make a "HA hall of fame list" of the well known HA guilds (a list that is going to be updated every month) that will allow a well known guild (that isnt in the top 100) to be shown in the observer mode.

My current guilds list:

GANK (ofc)
DoM? (they are in the top 100 but wtv)
ugly?
TV?
uV?
CneX?
DOGS?
AMp?
Crew?
KeYs?
LOol?
RuN?
VaiN?
LotP?
DRKN?

Gift3d · Jun 01, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

ANet caters to GvG'ers, and winning halls enough times for peope to reckognize your tag is not hard to do at all. With HA being more dead now than ever before, this is a really bad idea until ANet makes some positive changes.

But don't worry, they won't.

Div · Jun 01, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

If they're any good, you'll be able to consistently see them under the "Hall of Heroes" tab. The top guild HA games should just be eliminated completely.

I like how you mention GANK, but really, you don't learn anything by watching them play.

Zaiden · Jun 01, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

it's not about getting famous, its about teaching the new players how to play. (let's see, r100 aren't always very skilled: e.g. (i wont say it but it starts with a s and ends with a g). Many maps require tactics that cannot be learned by watching the halls (eg: cap point), and allowing us to watch teams like GANK and LotP play it, will probably help teaching us (the newbies) the ropes of these maps.

Teh Jace · Jun 01, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

There is no HA guild rating so this is not gonna hapen. Besided that u won't learn anything by watching pro ppl in action and guru or even pve gw wiki contain a lot of useful information about HA maps and their objectives.

leeky baby · Jun 02, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

so u can copy their builds better?

Lorekeeper · Jun 02, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27

Bad idea.

Next!

Killed u man · Jun 02, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorekeeper

Bad idea.

Next!

Ursan should be allowed in HA!

OGOGOGOGOGO

I Conjure Ho I · Jun 02, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

Ursan should be allowed in HA!

OGOGOGOGOGO

/agree Ursan makes everything more fun...

Divinus Stella · Jun 02, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Theres a reason those guilds stay in HA, putting a load of bad people on obs wouldnt help anyone.

Dallcingi · Jun 02, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

You left out sup?
they been holding a lot latently and they're number 1 in gvg as well.
It is too late to add HA ladder but yeah I agree that the gvg rating in HA TV mode does not make sense... you can be pwnage at gvg but crap in HA...

FoxBat · Jun 02, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Not really. It has it's own meta and techniques, but you see top gvg guilds hitting halls easily "inbetween" the monthlys. Important skills like preprot, spiking and faking etc. are universal, and the rest can be picked up quickly by anyone with that level of dedication.

Edwards · Jun 02, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Half those guilds are one-build wonders, or only hold during dead hours anyways.

It would be nice to have something like the "My Guild Matches" for HA, but I don't think it's really worth it, given the time of an average HA match.

blood seeker · Jun 02, 2008, 08:56 AM // 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallcingi

You left out sup?
they been holding a lot latently and they're number 1 in gvg as well.
It is too late to add HA ladder but yeah I agree that the gvg rating in HA TV mode does not make sense... you can be pwnage at gvg but crap in HA...

Thats because they always get helped by some random sway group.

but looking at the OP's list, it's already clear that this is a bad idea since its completely subjective. more than half of those guilds in that list are really bad imo.

RotteN · Jun 02, 2008, 10:02 AM // 10:02

there is no objective way to determine "being good at HA". Therefor, it's impossible to make a decent list.

As for learning purposes, HA has small maps with a single objective (being (priest) annihilation, relic run, king of the hill or capture points). It's not hard to figure out how to do that.

Killed u man · Jun 02, 2008, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by blood seeker

Thats because they always get helped by some random sway group.

but looking at the OP's list, it's already clear that this is a bad idea since its completely subjective. more than half of those guilds in that list are really bad imo.

Lawl, QFT

Looking at his list, I COULD live with having [ugly], [GANK] and [CneX] on Obs. Just for the sake of them being the only real old-school guilds worthy of mentioning...

Horace The Great · Jun 02, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

So how can guilds get in this observe list? If there is a system for that then it is not so bad. Though It's fine as it is now.

Free Sigils · Jun 02, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Theoretically speaking-

You could have some sort of "Real Time" poll on GW.com where a player could go and vote for any guild he/she wanted to get on the OBs mode list. Then the top X number guilds would have every match Obsified. Anet would never do it, but meh. Most matches aren't worth obsing except for maybe cap points and Courtyard imo.

supa tim · Jun 02, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Anet says /care to HA

Barbie goes guru · Jun 02, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

None of those guilds mentioned are particularly good. They rely on builds rather than skill to win anything. Therefore, all you will learn from watching those guilds is what build will get same caliber players fame. So basically you are asking for easier methods of copying tard ha'ers builds.